Talk:SJD Sathanas - Revision history

Snail: agrees

2009-06-26T21:58:13Z

agrees

Ngtm1r at 21:38, 26 June 2009

2009-06-26T21:38:11Z

Ngtm1r: /* "Deceiver" */

2009-06-26T21:37:59Z

‎"Deceiver"

Snail: inquiry re: "deceiver"

2009-06-26T17:48:42Z

inquiry re: "deceiver"

Snail: I WIN!!! I WIN!!! I WIN!!!

2009-06-23T15:21:59Z

I WIN!!! I WIN!!! I WIN!!!

ShadowGorrath at 10:10, 23 June 2009

2009-06-23T10:10:45Z

BlueFlames: I win, because it's hard-coded.

2009-06-23T04:00:40Z

I win, because it's hard-coded.

Snail: I WIN!

2009-06-22T16:26:08Z

I WIN!

BlueFlames at 03:18, 9 June 2009

2009-06-09T03:18:38Z

Snail: sorry if any confusion was caused, this should clear it up

2009-06-08T21:32:54Z

sorry if any confusion was caused, this should clear it up

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 Where did "Deceiver" come from? - [[User:Snail|Snail]] 17:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
+:The SJ"D" probably. Though I always took it to me "distant" [[User:Ngtm1r|Ngtm1r]] 21:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
-The SJ"D" probably. Though I always took it to me "distant" [[User:Ngtm1r|Ngtm1r]] 21:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
+::Funny, that's what I thought too. - [[User:Snail|Snail]] 21:58, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

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	Where did "Deceiver" come from? - [[User:Snail\|Snail]] 17:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)		Where did "Deceiver" come from? - [[User:Snail\|Snail]] 17:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
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	The SJ"D" probably. Though I always took it to me "distant" [[User:Ngtm1r\|Ngtm1r]] 21:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)		The SJ"D" probably. Though I always took it to me "distant" [[User:Ngtm1r\|Ngtm1r]] 21:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

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	Where did "Deceiver" come from? - [[User:Snail\|Snail]] 17:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)		Where did "Deceiver" come from? - [[User:Snail\|Snail]] 17:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
		+	The SJ"D" probably. Though I always took it to me "distant" [[User:Ngtm1r\|Ngtm1r]] 21:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

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	::::That's not minicap.pof. Look at the table- the target box uses the full SJ Sathanas model, and not minicap.pof. -[[User:ShadowGorrath\|ShadowGorrath]]		::::That's not minicap.pof. Look at the table- the target box uses the full SJ Sathanas model, and not minicap.pof. -[[User:ShadowGorrath\|ShadowGorrath]]
	:::::That thing sitting in your target box is the normal supercap2s-01.pof file which is the normal Sathanas pof. Minicap.pof appears to be a super-low detail version of supercap2s-01.pof. Open up minicap.pof itself and take a look. - [[User:Snail\|Snail]] 15:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)		:::::That thing sitting in your target box is the normal supercap2s-01.pof file which is the normal Sathanas pof. Minicap.pof appears to be a super-low detail version of supercap2s-01.pof. Open up minicap.pof itself and take a look. - [[User:Snail\|Snail]] 15:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
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		+	=="Deceiver"==
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		+	Where did "Deceiver" come from? - [[User:Snail\|Snail]] 17:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

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	:::[http://home.comcast.net/~blueflames/LionTarget2.png External camera shot of the SJD Sathanas] and [http://home.comcast.net/~blueflames/LionTarget1.png minicap.pof sitting in my target view box]. Are you still going to insist that minicap.pof isn't used, without testing it? -- [[User:BlueFlames\|BlueFlames]] 04:00, 23 June 2009 (UTC)		:::[http://home.comcast.net/~blueflames/LionTarget2.png External camera shot of the SJD Sathanas] and [http://home.comcast.net/~blueflames/LionTarget1.png minicap.pof sitting in my target view box]. Are you still going to insist that minicap.pof isn't used, without testing it? -- [[User:BlueFlames\|BlueFlames]] 04:00, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
	::::That's not minicap.pof. Look at the table- the target box uses the full SJ Sathanas model, and not minicap.pof. -[[User:ShadowGorrath\|ShadowGorrath]]		::::That's not minicap.pof. Look at the table- the target box uses the full SJ Sathanas model, and not minicap.pof. -[[User:ShadowGorrath\|ShadowGorrath]]
		+	:::::That thing sitting in your target box is the normal supercap2s-01.pof file which is the normal Sathanas pof. Minicap.pof appears to be a super-low detail version of supercap2s-01.pof. Open up minicap.pof itself and take a look. - [[User:Snail\|Snail]] 15:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

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	::The phrase "minicap.pof" does not appear anywhere in the FS2 retail ships table. - [[User:Snail\|Snail]] 16:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)		::The phrase "minicap.pof" does not appear anywhere in the FS2 retail ships table. - [[User:Snail\|Snail]] 16:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
	:::[http://home.comcast.net/~blueflames/LionTarget2.png External camera shot of the SJD Sathanas] and [http://home.comcast.net/~blueflames/LionTarget1.png minicap.pof sitting in my target view box]. Are you still going to insist that minicap.pof isn't used, without testing it? -- [[User:BlueFlames\|BlueFlames]] 04:00, 23 June 2009 (UTC)		:::[http://home.comcast.net/~blueflames/LionTarget2.png External camera shot of the SJD Sathanas] and [http://home.comcast.net/~blueflames/LionTarget1.png minicap.pof sitting in my target view box]. Are you still going to insist that minicap.pof isn't used, without testing it? -- [[User:BlueFlames\|BlueFlames]] 04:00, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
		+	::::That's not minicap.pof. Look at the table- the target box uses the full SJ Sathanas model, and not minicap.pof. -[[User:ShadowGorrath\|ShadowGorrath]]

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    $POF target file:			SuperCap2S-01.pof
    $Detail distance:			(0, 2500, 5000, 14000)
-The phrase "minicap.pof" does not appear anywhere in the FS2 retail ships table. - [[User:Snail|Snail]] 16:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
+::The phrase "minicap.pof" does not appear anywhere in the FS2 retail ships table. - [[User:Snail|Snail]] 16:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

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	"minicap.pof" (the low-poly Sathanas model) was not used to create the target view illusion, I think it was an entirely separate attempt to do the same thing, but was rejected by [V] in favor of this solution. Also, the model minicap.pof is not small either. In fact it has similar dimensions to the normal Sathanas. Just though I should clarify my previous edit in case it caused any confusion. - [[User:Snail\|Snail]] 21:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)		"minicap.pof" (the low-poly Sathanas model) was not used to create the target view illusion, I think it was an entirely separate attempt to do the same thing, but was rejected by [V] in favor of this solution. Also, the model minicap.pof is not small either. In fact it has similar dimensions to the normal Sathanas. Just though I should clarify my previous edit in case it caused any confusion. - [[User:Snail\|Snail]] 21:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
	:In retail FS2, minicap.pof does appear in the target view window, when targeting an SJD Sathanas. I don't know if that's been changed in FSOpen or not, though. -- [[User:BlueFlames\|BlueFlames]] 03:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)		:In retail FS2, minicap.pof does appear in the target view window, when targeting an SJD Sathanas. I don't know if that's been changed in FSOpen or not, though. -- [[User:BlueFlames\|BlueFlames]] 03:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
		+	::I doesn't. Taken from the retail table:
		+	$Name: SJD Sathanas
		+	$Short name: SDev
		+	$Species: Shivan
		+	+Tech Description:
		+	XSTR("A Sathanas, off in the distance.", 3168)
		+	$end_multi_text
		+	$POF file: Blip.pof
		+	$POF target file: SuperCap2S-01.pof
		+	$Detail distance: (0, 2500, 5000, 14000)
		+	The phrase "minicap.pof" does not appear anywhere in the FS2 retail ships table. - [[User:Snail\|Snail]] 16:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

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	- I feel that some FRED newbies need to know the difference between the SJ and the SJD Sathanas ships, so I created this article in about 5-6 minutes. [[User:Sigtau\|Sigtau]] 15:23, 8 June 2009 (UTC)		- I feel that some FRED newbies need to know the difference between the SJ and the SJD Sathanas ships, so I created this article in about 5-6 minutes. [[User:Sigtau\|Sigtau]] 15:23, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
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		+	==minicap.pof==

	"minicap.pof" (the low-poly Sathanas model) was not used to create the target view illusion, I think it was an entirely separate attempt to do the same thing, but was rejected by [V] in favor of this solution. Also, the model minicap.pof is not small either. In fact it has similar dimensions to the normal Sathanas. Just though I should clarify my previous edit in case it caused any confusion. - [[User:Snail\|Snail]] 21:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)		"minicap.pof" (the low-poly Sathanas model) was not used to create the target view illusion, I think it was an entirely separate attempt to do the same thing, but was rejected by [V] in favor of this solution. Also, the model minicap.pof is not small either. In fact it has similar dimensions to the normal Sathanas. Just though I should clarify my previous edit in case it caused any confusion. - [[User:Snail\|Snail]] 21:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
		+	:In retail FS2, minicap.pof does appear in the target view window, when targeting an SJD Sathanas. I don't know if that's been changed in FSOpen or not, though. -- [[User:BlueFlames\|BlueFlames]] 03:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

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	- I feel that some FRED newbies need to know the difference between the SJ and the SJD Sathanas ships, so I created this article in about 5-6 minutes. [[User:Sigtau\|Sigtau]] 15:23, 8 June 2009 (UTC)		- I feel that some FRED newbies need to know the difference between the SJ and the SJD Sathanas ships, so I created this article in about 5-6 minutes. [[User:Sigtau\|Sigtau]] 15:23, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
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		+	"minicap.pof" (the low-poly Sathanas model) was not used to create the target view illusion, I think it was an entirely separate attempt to do the same thing, but was rejected by [V] in favor of this solution. Also, the model minicap.pof is not small either. In fact it has similar dimensions to the normal Sathanas. Just though I should clarify my previous edit in case it caused any confusion. - [[User:Snail\|Snail]] 21:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)