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The '''GTB ''Boanerges''''' is an [[GTVA|Allied]] [[Terrans|Terran-designed]] heavy bomber that was brought into active service during [[Slaying Ravana|the GTVA's first skirmish with the SD ''Ravana'']]. The ''Boanerges'' was designed to endure a longer term of usage than any other bomber in the Allied Terran fleet. Compared to its Great War counterpart, the [[GTB Medusa|GTB ''Medusa'']], the ''Boanerges'''s maximum afterburner velocity is significantly lower, it is less agile, it has slightly less armor, and it has no automated turret, but makes up for this with a slightly stronger shield system and by sporting the largest missile banks among all Terran bombers.
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The '''GTB ''Boanerges''''' is a [[Terrans|Terran]] heavy bomber that was brought into active service sometime before the [[Second Shivan Incursion]]. While lacking in maneuverability and speed, the ''Boanerges'' possesses a remarkably large secondary capacity.
  
 
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===Name Origin===
 
===Name Origin===
:'''Meaning:''' ''Sons of Thunder''
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In the Christian religion, Boanerges is the Greek rendition of the names James and John, two brothers that are surnamed by Jesus Christ for their impetuosity, hence the literal meaning of the surname Jesus gave them, "Sons of Thunder".
:'''Language:''' ''Ancient Greek''
 
:'''Alternate spellings:''' ''Unknown''
 
 
 
In the Christian religion, Boanerges is the Greek rendition of the names James and John, two borthers that are surnamed by Jesus Christ for their impetuosity, hence the literal meaning of the surname Jesus gave them.
 
  
 
==Performance:==
 
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===Statistics===
 
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{{Ship Stats|Heavy Bomber|RNI Systems|Very Poor|55.0 - 65.0|85.0|Very Heavy|325|850|34}}
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{{Ship Stats|Heavy Bomber|RNI Systems|Very Poor|5.5, 6.0, 6.0|55.0 - 65.0|85.0|Very Heavy|325|850|34}}
  
 
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==Modding Resources==
 
==Modding Resources==
{{shipimage|image=[[Image:Gtbboanerges.jpg]]|caption=The GTB Boanerges in FS2_Open 3.6.10}}
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[[Image:GTBBoanerges.png|thumb|right|480px|HTL Boanerges.]]
 
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'''MediaVPs 3.6.14''':
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:Textures: Boanerges, glass, Tercoc01, damage, boadebris
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:Model by '''AthlonBoy'''.
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:Mesh adjustments and textures by '''Sab0o'''.
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:Release thread: [http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=74809.msg1481639#msg1481639 GTB Boanerges; texturing.] on 05 March 2011.
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==Veteran Comments==
 
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''Most people seem to have been disappointed with the Boanerges. I'm one of them. Despite the tech description, the Boanerges really does not seem to handle better than an [[GTB Ursa|Ursa]]. It also lacks the Ursa's second primary bank, having only a single two-gun set of primaries. In most anti-capital missions you'll want a [[GTW Maxim|Maxim]] primary, and dogfighting with a Maxim is an exercise in futility most of the time. This leaves you to fall back on your secondaries for anti-fighter protection, an uncomfortable situation, as secondaries run out. (And if you're not going after caps, why are you in a heavy bomber anyways?) It also does not seem to have a significantly stronger set of shields or a much stronger hull than an Ursa. Its only saving grace is that it has larger secondary bays and so can put a greater amount of weight on target before it runs dry... but sometimes this really does not seem enough to justify its use.''
 
  
  
''Basically the same thing as an Ursa, but with one primary and a greater secondary payload in two banks. Slightly faster too.''
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==Gallery==
  
But slower afterburner.
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File:Time for Heroes Sath Destroyed.jpg|A Boanerges escapes a stricken [[SJ Sathanas]]. ''([[A Time for Heroes]])''
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''From the tech room description, the Boanerges is really not meant to be better than the Ursa, but rather to be at least as good, the main driver for its adoption being reducing the maintenance burden. IMO the Boanerges is the better pure bomber, assuming that all heavy bomber wings are escorted by fighters, as they should be (but sometimes aren't), if you want to dogfight as well as bomb then you should really be using a light bomber like the [[GTB Artemis|Artemis]] or a [[GTB Zeus|Zeus]], not a heavy bomber at all.''
 
  
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==Veteran Comments==
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{{Comment|The Boanerges is a flying coffin for me. I flew it in Slaying Ravana and died every time flying it. I took an Ursa and made it back on the first try. The Boanerges may have a bigger payload, but the Ursa has more gun points, a turret, and a faster afterburner velocity, and for me, slightly better handling. The Boanerges may be smaller, but it doesn't have the afterburner power or the turret to ward off incoming hostiles.
  
''A crucial line is crossed in the Boanerges. Previous heavy bombers were incapable of dogfighting. The Boanerges is incapable of defending itself.''
 
  
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''Most people seem to have been disappointed with the Boanerges. I'm one of them. Despite the tech description, the Boanerges really does not seem to handle better than an [[GTB Ursa|Ursa]]. It also lacks the Ursa's second primary bank, having only a single two-gun set of primaries. In most anti-capital missions you'll want a [[GTW Maxim|Maxim]] primary, and dogfighting with a Maxim is an exercise in futility most of the time. This leaves you to fall back on your secondaries for anti-fighter protection, an uncomfortable situation, as secondaries run out. (And if you're not going after caps, why are you in a heavy bomber anyways?) It also does not seem to have a significantly stronger set of shields or a much stronger hull than an Ursa. Its only saving grace is that it has larger secondary bays and so can put a greater amount of weight on target before it runs dry... but sometimes this really does not seem enough to justify its use.''
  
''I've never, ever used the Boanerges in any mission that I seriously undertake in the main FreeSpace 2 campaign, partly because there's always the Ursa, and partly because of the way the Boanerges is designed. The primary guns of the Boanerges are almost as bad as the triple-gun mount on the Ursa and I can hardly ever hit anything with them because shots fired from them fly slightly upwards. The other issue I have with the Boanerges is that it has no turret. Unlike Vasudan bombers, which are agile enough to double up as fighters, most Terran bombers are far too slow to not warrant the inclusion of a turret. The Boanerges may have larger secondary banks than the Ursa, but what good is that if you're going to get shot down before you can launch your first salvo? The Boanerges is not a bomber; it's a deathtrap.''
 
  
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''IMO the Boanerges is the better pure bomber, assuming that all heavy bomber wings are escorted by fighters, as they should be (but sometimes aren't), if you want to dogfight as well as bomb then you should really be using a light bomber like the [[GTB Artemis|Artemis]] or a [[GTB Zeus|Zeus]], not a heavy bomber at all.''
  
''The Boanerges actually has '''less''' armour than the Ursa (325 vs 550), and its secondary capacity is equal, but redistributed (40-100-100 as opposed to 80-80-80). This means that overall, it still does less damage, due to the lack of the turret and triple gun rack. Also note that the larger the bank capacity, the longer it takes to fill, and each bank is filled at the simultaneously (i.e. the Ursa will spend less time as a sitting duck while rearming).
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''The primary guns of the Boanerges are almost as bad as the triple-gun mount on the Ursa and I can hardly ever hit anything with them because shots fired from them fly slightly upwards. The other issue I have with the Boanerges is that it has no turret.''
  
  
''Although the Boanerges has the same secondary capacity as the Ursa, it carries one fewer Cyclops torpedo (in an all-Cyclops loadout) than the Ursa because of the redistribution. The Ursa has a 5/5/5 (15 total) distribution while the Boanerges has a 2/6/6 (14 total) distribution. However, when carrying Cyclopes in only the last to banks (for example, to accommodate an anti-fighter missile in the first bank), the Boanerges is able to carry 2 more Cyclopes more than the Ursa (12 versus the Ursa's 10).''
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''The Boanerges actually has '''less''' armour than the Ursa (325 vs 550), and its secondary capacity is equal, but redistributed (40-100-100 as opposed to 80-80-80). This means that overall, it still does less damage, due to the lack of the turret and triple gun rack. Also note that the larger the bank capacity, the longer it takes to fill, and each bank is filled at the simultaneously (i.e. the Ursa will spend less time as a sitting duck while rearming).
  
  
''The Boanerges is faster than the GTB Ursa by 10 meters per second, and it also has a smaller profile. However, the Ursa has a higher afterburner velocity and hull integrity, while the other stats are nearly identical. I only used the Boanerges the first time I played FreeSpace 2 in the mission to destroy the [[SD Ravana]], and I think I died and tried again with the Ursa. The only other time you are allowed to use the Boanerges, you also have the GTB Artemis at your disposal, which, for the missions involved, is a better choice.
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''Although the Boanerges has the same secondary capacity as the Ursa, it carries two more Cyclops torpedoes (in an all-Cyclops loadout) than the Ursa because of the redistribution. The Ursa has a 5/5/5 (15 total) distribution while the Boanerges has a 3/7/7 (17 total) distribution. However, when carrying Cyclops in only the last two banks (for example, to accommodate an anti-fighter missile in the first bank), the Boanerges is able to carry 4 more Cyclops torpedoes than the Ursa (14 versus the Ursa's 10).''
  
  
''The speed advantage of the Boanerges can come in handy in at least one case&mdash;the missions in which you must destroy the beams on a Sathanas.  The GTB Ursa is massive and easy to hit with the flak, and its slow speed makes it a pain to escape the flakThe Boanerges is slightly faster, and you may be able to escape a bit earlier, especially if you can't sacrifice the shield power.  In any other case, particularly if there are enemy fighters, you'll want the GTB Ursa.
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''The Boanerges is faster than the GTB Ursa by 10 meters per second, and it also has a smaller profileHowever, the Ursa has a higher afterburner velocity and hull integrity, while the other stats are nearly identical.
  
  

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The GTB Boanerges is a Terran heavy bomber that was brought into active service sometime before the Second Shivan Incursion. While lacking in maneuverability and speed, the Boanerges possesses a remarkably large secondary capacity.

Description:

Gtbboanerges-old.jpg
The GTB Boanerges


FS2 Tech Room Description

The new GTB Boanerges has been assigned to elite bomber squadrons in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th Terran battle groups. The challenge of maintaining an aging fleet has motivated the GTVA to develop a new generation of ships able to withstand long-term abuse in the field. By maximizing shielding and payload (while offering enough maneuverability to make it a viable tactical unit), the Boanerges promises to remain in service for decades to come. One test pilot observed that the Boanerges handles better than any other bomber and has enough firepower to make it a formidable anti-capship weapon.

Developer Notes

None

Name Origin

In the Christian religion, Boanerges is the Greek rendition of the names James and John, two brothers that are surnamed by Jesus Christ for their impetuosity, hence the literal meaning of the surname Jesus gave them, "Sons of Thunder".

Performance:

Statistics

Type Heavy Bomber
Manufacturer RNI Systems
Maneuverability Very Poor
Yaw, Pitch, Roll 5.5, 6.0, 6.0 s
Max Velocity 55.0 - 65.0 ms-1
Max Afterburner Velocity 85.0 ms-1
Armor Very Heavy
Hitpoints 325
Shields 850
Length 34 m


Armaments

FreeSpace 2
Bank Guns Standard Loadout
1st 2 Prometheus R
Compatible Primaries
Subach HL-7, Prometheus R, UD-8 Kayser, Prometheus S, Lamprey, Circe, Maxim
Freespace 2
Bank Capacity Standard Loadout
1st 40 Hornet
2nd 100 Cyclops
3rd 100 Cyclops
Compatible Secondaries
MX-64, EMP Adv., Stiletto II, Piranha, Hornet, Tornado, Trebuchet, Infyrno, Cyclops, Helios

Modding Resources

HTL Boanerges.

Retail:

$POF File: bomber2t-01.pof
Textures: bomber2T-03a(/b/CD), thruster01

MediaVPs 3.6.14:

$POF File: boanerges.pof
Textures: Boanerges, glass, Tercoc01, damage, boadebris
Model by AthlonBoy.
Mesh adjustments and textures by Sab0o.
Release thread: GTB Boanerges; texturing. on 05 March 2011.







Gallery


Veteran Comments

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The Boanerges is a flying coffin for me. I flew it in Slaying Ravana and died every time flying it. I took an Ursa and made it back on the first try. The Boanerges may have a bigger payload, but the Ursa has more gun points, a turret, and a faster afterburner velocity, and for me, slightly better handling. The Boanerges may be smaller, but it doesn't have the afterburner power or the turret to ward off incoming hostiles.


Most people seem to have been disappointed with the Boanerges. I'm one of them. Despite the tech description, the Boanerges really does not seem to handle better than an Ursa. It also lacks the Ursa's second primary bank, having only a single two-gun set of primaries. In most anti-capital missions you'll want a Maxim primary, and dogfighting with a Maxim is an exercise in futility most of the time. This leaves you to fall back on your secondaries for anti-fighter protection, an uncomfortable situation, as secondaries run out. (And if you're not going after caps, why are you in a heavy bomber anyways?) It also does not seem to have a significantly stronger set of shields or a much stronger hull than an Ursa. Its only saving grace is that it has larger secondary bays and so can put a greater amount of weight on target before it runs dry... but sometimes this really does not seem enough to justify its use.


IMO the Boanerges is the better pure bomber, assuming that all heavy bomber wings are escorted by fighters, as they should be (but sometimes aren't), if you want to dogfight as well as bomb then you should really be using a light bomber like the Artemis or a Zeus, not a heavy bomber at all.


The primary guns of the Boanerges are almost as bad as the triple-gun mount on the Ursa and I can hardly ever hit anything with them because shots fired from them fly slightly upwards. The other issue I have with the Boanerges is that it has no turret.


The Boanerges actually has less armour than the Ursa (325 vs 550), and its secondary capacity is equal, but redistributed (40-100-100 as opposed to 80-80-80). This means that overall, it still does less damage, due to the lack of the turret and triple gun rack. Also note that the larger the bank capacity, the longer it takes to fill, and each bank is filled at the simultaneously (i.e. the Ursa will spend less time as a sitting duck while rearming).


Although the Boanerges has the same secondary capacity as the Ursa, it carries two more Cyclops torpedoes (in an all-Cyclops loadout) than the Ursa because of the redistribution. The Ursa has a 5/5/5 (15 total) distribution while the Boanerges has a 3/7/7 (17 total) distribution. However, when carrying Cyclops in only the last two banks (for example, to accommodate an anti-fighter missile in the first bank), the Boanerges is able to carry 4 more Cyclops torpedoes than the Ursa (14 versus the Ursa's 10).


The Boanerges is faster than the GTB Ursa by 10 meters per second, and it also has a smaller profile. However, the Ursa has a higher afterburner velocity and hull integrity, while the other stats are nearly identical.


The largest advantage the Boanerges has over the Ursa is its ability to get more bombs out in a shorter period of time. Due to the distribution of the Boanerges' missile capacity, it can fire 5 dual-linked Helios before running dry, whereas the Ursa only manages 3 dual-fires, with "leftovers" that need to be fired individually.