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==Lady Plato== | ==Lady Plato== | ||
The standard designation for ships in ''both'' the U.S. Navy and the Royal Navy (the U.K. Navy) is feminine, ie. ships are referred to as "she", regardless of their name. This is due to traditional reasons; the Olde English word ''scip'' was initially gendered as masculine, but later became feminine. Hence, the gender of ships changed. This changeover was complete before the 15th century, when the last written accounts of ships being referred to as masculine appear. Languages that have gendered nouns refer to ships as feminine (compare "mothership"), regardless of their designation. As example the USS ''Franklin'' -- named after Benjamin Franklin and nicked "Big Ben" -- is always referred to as a "she". So yes, the Plato is a "she". [[User:Selectah|Selectah]] 03:44, 18 March 2008 (CST) | The standard designation for ships in ''both'' the U.S. Navy and the Royal Navy (the U.K. Navy) is feminine, ie. ships are referred to as "she", regardless of their name. This is due to traditional reasons; the Olde English word ''scip'' was initially gendered as masculine, but later became feminine. Hence, the gender of ships changed. This changeover was complete before the 15th century, when the last written accounts of ships being referred to as masculine appear. Languages that have gendered nouns refer to ships as feminine (compare "mothership"), regardless of their designation. As example the USS ''Franklin'' -- named after Benjamin Franklin and nicked "Big Ben" -- is always referred to as a "she". So yes, the Plato is a "she". [[User:Selectah|Selectah]] 03:44, 18 March 2008 (CST) | ||
| + | *Oh, by the by, ere someone comments on the gender of ''scip''; it might not be apparent from the above, but the Olde English noun ''scip'' was neuter ("it"), not masculine ("he"). Nevertheless, before ships were finally effeminated, both "it" and "he" were encountered in writing, along "she". The fenimine tradition was firmly established by the 15th century, tho. Just to Clarify™. [[User:Selectah|Selectah]] 09:12, 18 March 2008 (CST) | ||
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Lady Plato
The standard designation for ships in both the U.S. Navy and the Royal Navy (the U.K. Navy) is feminine, ie. ships are referred to as "she", regardless of their name. This is due to traditional reasons; the Olde English word scip was initially gendered as masculine, but later became feminine. Hence, the gender of ships changed. This changeover was complete before the 15th century, when the last written accounts of ships being referred to as masculine appear. Languages that have gendered nouns refer to ships as feminine (compare "mothership"), regardless of their designation. As example the USS Franklin -- named after Benjamin Franklin and nicked "Big Ben" -- is always referred to as a "she". So yes, the Plato is a "she". Selectah 03:44, 18 March 2008 (CST)
- Oh, by the by, ere someone comments on the gender of scip; it might not be apparent from the above, but the Olde English noun scip was neuter ("it"), not masculine ("he"). Nevertheless, before ships were finally effeminated, both "it" and "he" were encountered in writing, along "she". The fenimine tradition was firmly established by the 15th century, tho. Just to Clarify™. Selectah 09:12, 18 March 2008 (CST)
