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What's the point of this article? Why is it written in a weirdly argumentative manner? Why is it claiming to cite multiple sources when it only cites ''one'' source that has been quoted multiple times? Why is it framing the long-running discussion on the Lucifer's shields as a "misconception"? --[[User:The E|The E]] ([[User talk:The E|talk]]) 09:32, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 
What's the point of this article? Why is it written in a weirdly argumentative manner? Why is it claiming to cite multiple sources when it only cites ''one'' source that has been quoted multiple times? Why is it framing the long-running discussion on the Lucifer's shields as a "misconception"? --[[User:The E|The E]] ([[User talk:The E|talk]]) 09:32, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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* The point of this article is the exact same point of other articles addressing a wide range of topics concerning the FreeSpace Universe. This Wiki hosts them and they all have the exact same right to exist, providing they're grounded on canon or comparable sources. Though there's a ''caveat'' concerning the information provided by this article, as it's an indirect report from Volition instead of a proper source extrapolated from the two games, it still falls under the greater umbrella of canonical information just like the well known phrase "The Shivans are merely a symptom of a much bigger problem" (see. [[Canon]] and references therein). Though the phrasing and overall structure of the article may be improved and anyone can in fact edit it, I wouldn't say that it's written in a "weirdly argumentative manner". I also wouldn't argue over the purpose and existence of an article, as anything on the Wiki that does contribute to the general knowledge we have on the FreeSpace universe (''e.g.,'' this article) should be more than welcome. Furthermore, the fact that the references point to one specific source is not relevant, as the Volition source reporting on the Lucifer's supposed invincibility is indeed one source that was later brought to HLP by one veteran member of the community, but remained stagnant for years. And finally, the article does not undermine other arguments concerning the Lucifer's shields, as they are addressed elsewhere. - [[User:Mobius|Mobius]] ([[User talk:Mobius|talk]]) 12:01, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

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What's the point of this article? Why is it written in a weirdly argumentative manner? Why is it claiming to cite multiple sources when it only cites one source that has been quoted multiple times? Why is it framing the long-running discussion on the Lucifer's shields as a "misconception"? --The E (talk) 09:32, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

  • The point of this article is the exact same point of other articles addressing a wide range of topics concerning the FreeSpace Universe. This Wiki hosts them and they all have the exact same right to exist, providing they're grounded on canon or comparable sources. Though there's a caveat concerning the information provided by this article, as it's an indirect report from Volition instead of a proper source extrapolated from the two games, it still falls under the greater umbrella of canonical information just like the well known phrase "The Shivans are merely a symptom of a much bigger problem" (see. Canon and references therein). Though the phrasing and overall structure of the article may be improved and anyone can in fact edit it, I wouldn't say that it's written in a "weirdly argumentative manner". I also wouldn't argue over the purpose and existence of an article, as anything on the Wiki that does contribute to the general knowledge we have on the FreeSpace universe (e.g., this article) should be more than welcome. Furthermore, the fact that the references point to one specific source is not relevant, as the Volition source reporting on the Lucifer's supposed invincibility is indeed one source that was later brought to HLP by one veteran member of the community, but remained stagnant for years. And finally, the article does not undermine other arguments concerning the Lucifer's shields, as they are addressed elsewhere. - Mobius (talk) 12:01, 19 December 2023 (UTC)