Talk:Veteran Comments policy

I really have to agree, some of the comments seem to come from blogs. What is going to happen to "unconventional" comments? Will they be deleted or changed? - Mobius

That's the plan, purge them all. Feel free to delete or modify any comment that you think doesn't deserve to be there. Mustang19 03:19, 2 March 2008 (CST)

Everything's about the writing style, it should be the way more serious. It can be changed without deleting everything, the style might not be ok but the opinions remain valid. - Mobius 03:29, 2 March 2008 (CST)

Sorry, you won't find many volunteers there. It's good that you take FreeSpace Wiki so seriously; not everyone does. I think that the Wiki forum would be a better way to be heard on this issue. Mustang19 03:39, 2 March 2008 (CST)

I won't start a topic about the subject, there's a tendence to lock everything I create. Do it yourself ;) - Mobius 05:09, 2 March 2008 (CST)

Should the Veteran Comments have something related to FRED and the Universe? The main campaigns don't tell everything the player has to know.

Ex. the player may or may not notice that the Rakshasa has 3 SReds only in Apocalypse, the Lilith is overkill and rare, its usage should be contained, etc. etc.) - --Mobius 05:28, 2 March 2008 (CST)

• FRED related stuff should be fine imo, as long as it's short and to the point. Though we should probably make an effort to cluster those comments at the bottom so players can reach the comments that matter to them faster. Basically, useful info is useful info, what needs to go is all the useless editorializing and pontification that seems to have no reason other than get the editor's name onto the recent changes list. Shade 11:42, 2 March 2008 (CST)

• I think there should be VCs for: 1) Main campaigns; 2) FRED & Custom made campaigns; 3) Universe(?).

The community changed a lot, like bombing runs. In the FS Universe the Hecate is supposed to be superior to the Orion under all points of view. The Lilith is an incredibly rare cruiser and is overkill, too...

What do you think? - Mobius 13:21, 2 March 2008 (CST)

• For stuff like rarity and intended purposes, no, I don't think these belong in VCs. Such info is ultimately subjective and, if someone wants to have 10 Liliths in a mission, they're certainly welcome to. That kind of stuff is more for a place like the FRED Zone website or some kind of expanded freespace reference guide. But stuff that clearly affects how a ship or weapon can be used in missions and any pitfalls with them, such as the warning about the Nephilim secondaries, that would be ok to me. - Shade 23:18, 2 March 2008 (CST)

• 10 Liliths won't be welcome without a good explanation and they're overkill. I wrote something about the Ravana and a potentially good way to use it: as "Veteran" I find annoyng the classic "disarm her beams and watch her die", we all know that [V] gave the Ravana a respectable role in the main campaign. In "The Great Hunt" [V] used fire-beam(it doesn't happen in most custom campaigns).

A Veteran plays a lot of campaigns. I think he/she/it is in the right position to criticize the wide, poor and unrealistic use of certain ships. I don't think we can limit the comments to engagements-related stuff, the background is very important. - Mobius 18:13, 4 March 2008 (CST)

• Welcome or not, annoying or not shouldn't matter for veteran comments. That kind of info is certainly useful to campaign makers, but in my opinion it belongs elsewhere. An article about it would be great to have for the FRED section of the wiki, a place where the people who need to know it will find it, and where the people who are looking for helpful gameplay info won't have to dig through it. Also, again, such info would be opinion, not fact, which basically means anyone who has an opinion on how ships should be used suddenly have a license to editorialize in the veteran comments - Which is exactly what we're trying to get away from. You dislike disarm beams missions, and you dislike overuse of powerful ships. Someone else likes those things. It's opinion.

• They're not FRED related matters, they're universe and plot related. As veteran I would like to see an use of the Ravana(just to give an example)that is both closer to V's and more reasonable. In case the veteran comments aren't suitable for this kind of suggestions, where should I write them? In a page in which many custom campaigns are criticized? I don't think it's a good idea... - Mobius 13:54, 5 March 2008 (CST)