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The '''GTD ''Orion''''' was a standard Terran destroyer mainly used during the [[Terran-Vasudan War]], and later in the [[Great War]]. Because of the massive size of this ship, it incited fear into civilians, and therefore the [[Galactic Terran Alliance|Galactic Terran Alliance (GTA)]] did not send its ''Orion'' destroyers outside war zones. It was said that "Where these ships wander, war is certain to follow." <small>([[FreeSpace Reference Bible]])</small>
The '''GTD ''Orion''''' was a standard Terran destroyer mainly used during the [[The Great War|Great War]]. After the appearance of [[beam weapons]] and the development of the [[GTD Hecate|GTD ''Hecate'']], Orions somehow lost their previous esteem and were gradually replaced by more advanced warships.
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After the development of [[beam weapons]] and the ushering-in of the [[GTCv Deimos|''Deimos''-class corvette]] and [[GTD Hecate|''Hecate''-class destroyer]] into service, the [[Galactic Terran-Vasudan Alliance|Galactic Terran-Vasudan Alliance (GTVA)]] began to gradually replace all remaining ''Orion''-class destroyers in service with these new ships.
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During the [[NTF Rebellion]], a number of ''Orion''-class destroyers defected to the [[Neo-Terran Front]]. Many of these ships were ultimately destroyed.
  
 
==Description:==
 
==Description:==
 
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{{shipimage|image=[[Image:Gtdorion-old.jpg]]|caption=The GTD Orion}}
 
===FS1 Tech Room Description===
 
===FS1 Tech Room Description===
 
The Orion is the capital ship of the GTA. Measuring a frightening 2.1 kilometers in length, the cost to build one of these far outweighs the cost of paying the crew of this ship for 3 years. There is no more important symbol of Terran Pride than a ship like the Galatea or the Intrepid cruising past a colonized planet, patrolling the system and ensuring safety. In the course of the 14 year war, very few of these have ever been lost, making the destruction of an Orion a truly horrible defeat.
 
The Orion is the capital ship of the GTA. Measuring a frightening 2.1 kilometers in length, the cost to build one of these far outweighs the cost of paying the crew of this ship for 3 years. There is no more important symbol of Terran Pride than a ship like the Galatea or the Intrepid cruising past a colonized planet, patrolling the system and ensuring safety. In the course of the 14 year war, very few of these have ever been lost, making the destruction of an Orion a truly horrible defeat.
  
 
===FS2 Tech Room Description===
 
===FS2 Tech Room Description===
For over 30 years, the GTD Orion class was the largest ship in the Terran-Vasudan armada. Over two kilometers in length, bristling with dozens of death-dealing turrets, the Orion is as awesome in repose as it is in battle. All GTVA Orions have been retrofitted with the latest anti-warship beam weapons, as well as flak and AAA turrets for dealing with fighters and bombers. The Orion's cavernous hanger bays easily accommodate more than two dozen fighter or bomber wings.
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For over 30 years, the GTD Orion class was the largest ship in the Terran-Vasudan armada. Over two kilometers in length, bristling with dozens of death-dealing turrets, the Orion is as awesome in repose as it is in battle. All GTVA Orions have been retrofitted with the latest anti-warship beam weapons, as well as flak and AAA turrets for dealing with fighters and bombers. The Orion's cavernous hangar bays easily accommodate more than two dozen fighter or bomber wings.
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===Developer Notes===
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None
  
===Notable Ships of Class===
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===Canon Orions===
[[GTD Amadeus|GTD ''Amadeus'']] <br>
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:''See also: [[:Category:GTD Orion-class destroyers|GTD Orion-class destroyers]]''
[[GTD Bastion|GTD ''Bastion'']] <br>
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:''Note: The Orions that have actually appeared in-mission are bolded. At least one of the FreeSpace 1 ships may not be an Orion, but some other class of GTA destroyer. However, all of the NTF Orions have either appeared in-game or have been shown in a Command Briefing to be an Orion-class, with the exception of the ''[[NTD Jacobus|Jacobus]]'' and ''[[NTD Normandy|Normandy]]''.
[[GTD Eisenhower|GTD ''Eisenhower'']] <br>
 
[[GTD Galatea|GTD ''Galatea'']] <br>
 
[[GTD Goliath|GTD ''Goliath'']] <br>
 
[[GTD Krios|GTD ''Krios'']] <br>
 
[[GTD Intrepid|GTD ''Intrepid'']] <br>
 
[[GTD Minnow|GTD ''Minnow'']] <br>
 
[[GTD Nereid|GTD ''Nereid'']] <br>
 
[[GTD Soyakaze|GTD ''Soyakaze'']] <br>
 
  
[[NTD Andronicus|NTD ''Andronicus'']] <br>
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=====[[GTA]]/[[GTVA]]=====
[[NTD Cyrene|NTD ''Cyrene'']] <br>
 
[[NTD Jacobus|NTD ''Jacobus'']] <br>
 
[[NTD Normandy|NTD ''Normandy'']] <br>
 
[[NTD Repulse|NTD ''Repulse'']] <br>
 
[[NTD Uhuru|NTD ''Uhuru'']] <br>
 
[[NTD Vindicator|NTD ''Vindicator'']] <br>
 
  
===Developer Notes===
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*'''[[FreeSpace 1 Terran Ship Database#GTD|GTD]]'''
None
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*[[GTD Amadeus|GTD ''Amadeus'']] (possibly)
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*'''[[GTD Bastion|GTD ''Bastion'']]'''
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*'''[[FreeSpace 2 Terran Ship Database#GTD Carthage|GTD ''Carthage'']]'''
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*'''[[GTD Galatea|GTD ''Galatea'']]'''
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*'''[[GTD Intrepid|GTD ''Intrepid'']]'''
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*'''[[GTD Krios|GTD ''Krios'']]'''
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*'''[[FreeSpace 2 Terran Ship Database#GTD Messana|GTD ''Messana'']] '''
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*[[GTD Minnow|GTD ''Minnow'']] (possibly)
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*'''[[FreeSpace 1 Terran Ship Database#GTD Myrmidon|GTD ''Myrmidon'']]'''
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*[[GTD Nereid|GTD ''Nereid'']]
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*[[GTD Soyakaze|GTD ''Soyakaze'']] (possibly)
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=====[[Neo Terran Front]]=====
  
===Veteran Comments===
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*[[FreeSpace 2 Rebel Ship Database#NTD Andronicus|NTD ''Andronicus'']]
''Despite the introduction of the new Hecate class of destroyers, the aging Orion still remains a vital part of the GTVA arsenal. With the Hecate designed with an emphasis on protection from fighter and bomber attacks, the Orion remains the king of capital ship combat - With heavy beam emplacements capable of laying down devastating fire in nearly all directions, it is a true terror to any capital ship that strays into its firing range.''<br><br>
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*[[FreeSpace 2 Rebel Ship Database#NTD Cyrene|NTD ''Cyrene'']]
''However, its age does show in one area. Being designed in an era where fighter and bomber ordnance was far inferior to today's weaponry and where shields were non-existant, it carries very few dedicated anti-fighter turrets, making it an easy target for bomber wings should it ever be left without fighter escort.''<br><br>
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*[[NTD Jacobus|NTD ''Jacobus'']]  (possibly)
''The Orion only carries eight squadrons of fighters to the [[GTD Hecate|Hecates]] twelve, but has massively more firpower, arranged better on its hull. The [[GTD Bastion]] however, cannonically lists ten squadrons, it must be assumed that these are not full squadrons (twelve fighters per full squadron) or that the Bastion is not a typical Orion.''<br><br>
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*[[FreeSpace 2 Rebel Ship Database#NTD Normandy|NTD ''Normandy'']]  (possibly)
''The sort of straight profile of the GTD Orion allows for few blindspots for turrets. If it was mounted with sufficient batteries of anti-fighter weaponry, it would be unstoppable. However, it does not, and so therefore lost something that could potentially make it the best destroyer in the game. I also believe that this has a chance of taking on a Demon and winning.''<br><br>
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*'''[[NTD Repulse|NTD ''Repulse'']]'''
''It is worth noting that not all the canonical Orions in Freespace II mount standard weaponry, at least one (the NTD Uhuru) mounts [[Standard Flak|Flak Guns]] on its upper turrets.''
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*'''[[NTD Uhuru|NTD ''Uhuru'']]'''
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*[[FreeSpace 2 Rebel Ship Database#NTD Vasa|NTD ''Vasa'']]
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*'''[[NTD Vindicator|NTD ''Vindicator'']]'''
  
''If you're looking for a true descendant of  ''HMS Dreadnaught ''in FS, put the Orion at the top of the list. Under ideal conditions it can bring two BGreens and two TerSlash to bear on a target; the heaviest broadside any GTVA destroyer can muster.''
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===Name Origin===
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In Greek mythology, Orion was a notorious hunter. There are numerous stories about his life.
  
''One thing worth noting is that the tech description is a bald-faced lie: the Orion does not haved "dozens" of turrets. The fact is that it barely has a single dozen of them.''
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Orion is also one of the many known large constellations. The constellation is also referred to as "The Hunter."
  
 
==Performance:==
 
==Performance:==
 
===Statistics===
 
===Statistics===
{|
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{{Ship_box
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|name =GTD Orion
| style="width:200px" | '''[[Technical_Terms_and_Definitions#Type|Type]]'''
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|type =Destroyer
| style="width:200px" | Destroyer
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|max_velocity =15
|-
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|hitpoints =100 000
| '''[[Technical_Terms_and_Definitions#Manufacturer|Manufacturer]]'''
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|length =2030
| Unknown
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|turrets =16
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|fighters =96 - 120
| '''[[Technical_Terms_and_Definitions#Manuverablity|Manuverability]]'''
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}}
| N/A
 
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| '''[[Technical_Terms_and_Definitions#Max Velocity|Max Velocity]]'''
 
| 15.0 mps
 
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| '''[[Technical_Terms_and_Definitions#Max Afterburner Velocity|Max Afterburner Velocity]]'''
 
| N/A
 
|-
 
| '''[[Technical_Terms_and_Definitions#Armor|Armor]]'''
 
| N/A
 
|-
 
| [[Technical_Terms_and_Definitions#Hitpoints|Hitpoints]]
 
| 100 000
 
|-
 
| [[Technical_Terms_and_Definitions#Shields|Shields]]
 
| N/A
 
|-
 
| '''[[Technical_Terms_and_Definitions#Length|Length]]'''
 
| 2023 m
 
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| '''[[Technical_Terms_and_Definitions#Fighter Complement|Fighter Complement]]'''
 
| 96+ fightercraft(?) (24+ wings)
 
|}
 
 
 
 
===Armaments===
 
===Armaments===
 
 
*'''[[Technical_Terms_and_Definitions#Turrets|Turrets]]'''
 
*'''[[Technical_Terms_and_Definitions#Turrets|Turrets]]'''
 
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| colspan=2 style="background:#351515;"| '''FreeSpace 1'''
| colspan=2 style="background:#300505;"| '''Freespace 2'''
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| colspan=2 style="background:#300505;"| '''FreeSpace 2'''
 
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| style="width:120px" |Turret Type
 
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==Modding Resources==
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{{shipimage|image=[[Image:Gtdorion.jpg]]|caption=The GTD Orion in FS2_Open 3.6.10}}
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'''Retail''':
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:$POF File: capital01.pof
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:Textures: Capital01-01(a/b/c), Capital01-02(a/b/c), Capital01-03(a/b), Capital01-04(a/b), Capital01-05(a/b), Capital01-06a, Capital01-07a, invisible
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'''MediaVP 3.6.10''':
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:$POF File: capital01.pof
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:Textures: capital01-01( /c), capital01-02, capital01-03, capital01-04, capital01-05, capital01-06, getile1, install01-01, damage
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[http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=27491.0 History]<br>
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First WIP Post: Bobboau on 10/03/2004<br>
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First In-Game Model: StratComm on [http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=31212.0 03/11/2005]<br>
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Completed In-Game Model: Galemp on [http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=35063.0 09/10/2005]<br>
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Final Corrections: ??? on ???
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{{shipimage|image=[[Image:OrionTM320x240.jpg]]|caption=TrashMan's GTD Orion}}
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'''TrashMan's Version''':<br>
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:$POF File: Orion_FS1.pof<br>
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:Textures: capital01-01(a/c), capital01-02a, capital01-03a, capital01-04a, capital01-05a, capital01-06a, capital01-07a, install01-01a, damage<br>
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[http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=35154.0 History]<br>
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First WIP Post: TrashMan on 09/13/2005<br>
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First In-Game Model: TrashMan on 09/14/2005<br>
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Completed In-Game Model:TrashMan on [http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=49018.0 07/21/2007]<br>
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Final Corrections: ??? on ???
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==Gallery==
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<gallery>
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Image:RScreen0001.jpg | The bow of a mighty Orion destroyer.
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Image:RScreen0006.jpg | On patrol above a desert world.
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Image:Screen0445.png | The [[GTD Bastion|''Bastion'']] transits the [[Beta Aquilae]]-[[Delta Serpentis]] node in hot pursuit of the [[SD Lucifer|''Lucifer'']]. ([[Clash of the Titans]])
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Image:RScreen0005.jpg | A last ditch effort to save [[Earth]] from utter destruction launches from the ''Bastion''. ([[The Great Hunt]])
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Image:RScreen0045.jpg | The GTD ''Carthage'' and the GVCv ''Dashor'' guarding the [[Knossos|Subspace Portal]] in [[Gamma Draconis]]. ([[A Lion at the Door]])
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Image:RScreen0032.png | Different angle of the same scene.
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Image:RScreen0034.png | The anti-fighter defenses of the NTD ''Repulse'' in action. ([[Feint! Parry! Riposte!]])
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Image:RScreen0025.jpg | Lured into a trap, Koth plots a collision course for the [[GTVA Colossus|''Colossus'']] in [[Epsilon Pegasi]]. ([[Feint! Parry! Riposte!]])
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Image:RScreen0073.png | And the consequences of Koth's disastrous underestimation of the Colossus' firepower.
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Image:Kingsgambitorion1ck0.jpg | The NTD ''Uhuru'' under heavy beam fire from [[GTSG Mjolnir|remote beam cannons]]. ([[King's Gambit]])
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Image:RScreen0029.jpg | An allied Orion destroyer combats insurgents in the [[Procyon]] system. From [[The Procyon Insurgency]].
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Image:RScreen0043.jpg | From the Shadow Genesis mod: An Orion stands guard over an orbital [[GTI Aeglos|installation]].
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Image:RScreen0022.jpg | Above the rings of Saturn, a lone Orion makes a stand against two [[United Earth Federation|UEF]] [[UEFg Karuna|frigates]]. From [[War in Heaven]].
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Image:RScreen0068.png | An Orion passes an inhabited Terran world. From the B.D. mod.
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Image:RScreen0071.jpg | The Carthage fires a beam. From the upcoming [[War in Heaven]] release.
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Image:RScreen0072.jpg | An Orion class destroyer in the Spica system. From the Shadow Genesis campaign.
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</gallery>
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==Veteran Comments==
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{{Comment|
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''Despite the introduction of the new Hecate class of destroyers, the aging Orion still remains a vital part of the GTVA arsenal. With the Hecate designed with an emphasis on protection from fighter and bomber attacks, the Orion remains the king of capital ship combat - With heavy beam emplacements capable of laying down devastating fire in nearly all directions, it is a true terror to any capital ship that strays into its firing range.''
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''However, its age does show in one area. Being designed in an era where fighter and bomber ordnance was far inferior to today's weaponry and where shields were nonexistent, it carries very few dedicated anti-fighter turrets, making it an easy target for bomber wings should it ever be left without fighter escort.''
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''The Orion only carries eight squadrons of fighters to the [[GTD Hecate|Hecate's]] twelve, but has massively more firepower, arranged better on its hull. The [[GTD Bastion]], however, canonically lists ten squadrons, it must be assumed that these are not full squadrons (twelve fighters per full squadron) or that the Bastion is not a typical Orion.''
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''Great at eliminating capital ships. Those 6 anti-warship beams are nothing to laugh at. Rather vulnerable to enemy fighter craft but not as badly as people give it credit for. However, if you needed proof all warships over cruiser size need flak cannons, this would be it. The laser turrets cover long-range bomb destruction fairly well, but without flak, bombers could simply go closer and then let loose''
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''It is worth noting that not all the canonical Orions in FreeSpace 2 mount standard weaponry, at least one (the NTD Uhuru) mounts [[Standard Flak|Flak Guns]] on its upper turrets. This may have happened due to balancing issues, anyway.''
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''If you're looking for a true descendant of  ''HMS Dreadnaught ''in FS, put the Orion at the top of the list. Under ideal conditions it can bring two BGreens and two TerSlash to bear on a target; the heaviest broadside any GTVA destroyer can muster. Be aware that in practice presenting this broadside to another destroyer is quite dangerous; the side of the ship without a fighterbay has no non-heavy-beam turrets, and the other side has only a single blob. AAAf's and sufficent blobs to intercept multiple inbound bombs are mounted only on the upper and lower surfaces of the hull, so attack from or protect the sides of the ship.''
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''One thing worth noting is that the tech description is a bald-faced lie: the Orion does not have "dozens" of turrets. The fact is that it has a dozen and one third turrets. While this lack of turrets does not compromise its ability against capital ships, the same cannot be said against a fighter assault.''
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''In FreeSpace 2, the Orion is basically a capital ship killer. Its three heavy beam cannons (as well as several slasher beams for fire support) provide an excellent perimeter of defense for the ship. However, I believe it is still outmatched by the [[Hatshepsut]] in two ways; one, the Hatshepsut can focus more firepower, making it a worthy opponent even for the deadly [[SD Ravana]]; two, the Hatshepsut has 35% more hitpoints. Though the Orion outranks the Hecate in anti-capital firepower, it packs a tragically poor anti-bomber armament; a single dedicated heavy bomber pilot can take out the Orion. Though it has less anti-bomber firepower than the Hecate, it more than compensates for its lethargic heavy beam weaponry.''}}
  
 
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The GTD Orion was a standard Terran destroyer mainly used during the Terran-Vasudan War, and later in the Great War. Because of the massive size of this ship, it incited fear into civilians, and therefore the Galactic Terran Alliance (GTA) did not send its Orion destroyers outside war zones. It was said that "Where these ships wander, war is certain to follow." (FreeSpace Reference Bible)

After the development of beam weapons and the ushering-in of the Deimos-class corvette and Hecate-class destroyer into service, the Galactic Terran-Vasudan Alliance (GTVA) began to gradually replace all remaining Orion-class destroyers in service with these new ships.

During the NTF Rebellion, a number of Orion-class destroyers defected to the Neo-Terran Front. Many of these ships were ultimately destroyed.

Description:

Gtdorion-old.jpg
The GTD Orion


FS1 Tech Room Description

The Orion is the capital ship of the GTA. Measuring a frightening 2.1 kilometers in length, the cost to build one of these far outweighs the cost of paying the crew of this ship for 3 years. There is no more important symbol of Terran Pride than a ship like the Galatea or the Intrepid cruising past a colonized planet, patrolling the system and ensuring safety. In the course of the 14 year war, very few of these have ever been lost, making the destruction of an Orion a truly horrible defeat.

FS2 Tech Room Description

For over 30 years, the GTD Orion class was the largest ship in the Terran-Vasudan armada. Over two kilometers in length, bristling with dozens of death-dealing turrets, the Orion is as awesome in repose as it is in battle. All GTVA Orions have been retrofitted with the latest anti-warship beam weapons, as well as flak and AAA turrets for dealing with fighters and bombers. The Orion's cavernous hangar bays easily accommodate more than two dozen fighter or bomber wings.

Developer Notes

None

Canon Orions

See also: GTD Orion-class destroyers
Note: The Orions that have actually appeared in-mission are bolded. At least one of the FreeSpace 1 ships may not be an Orion, but some other class of GTA destroyer. However, all of the NTF Orions have either appeared in-game or have been shown in a Command Briefing to be an Orion-class, with the exception of the Jacobus and Normandy.
GTA/GTVA
Neo Terran Front

Name Origin

In Greek mythology, Orion was a notorious hunter. There are numerous stories about his life.

Orion is also one of the many known large constellations. The constellation is also referred to as "The Hunter."

Performance:

Statistics

Name GTD Orion
Type Destroyer
Max Velocity 15 ms-1
Hitpoints 100 000 pts
Length 2030 m
Turrets 16 turrets
Fighter Complement 96 - 120

Armaments

FreeSpace 1 FreeSpace 2
Turret Type Amount Turret Type Amount
Terran Huge Turret 5 Terran Huge Turret 4
Terran Turret 11 Terran Turret 3
Anti-Fighter Beam 3
Terran Slashing Beam 3
Big Green Beam 3

Modding Resources

Gtdorion.jpg
The GTD Orion in FS2_Open 3.6.10


Retail:

$POF File: capital01.pof
Textures: Capital01-01(a/b/c), Capital01-02(a/b/c), Capital01-03(a/b), Capital01-04(a/b), Capital01-05(a/b), Capital01-06a, Capital01-07a, invisible

MediaVP 3.6.10:

$POF File: capital01.pof
Textures: capital01-01( /c), capital01-02, capital01-03, capital01-04, capital01-05, capital01-06, getile1, install01-01, damage


History
First WIP Post: Bobboau on 10/03/2004
First In-Game Model: StratComm on 03/11/2005
Completed In-Game Model: Galemp on 09/10/2005
Final Corrections: ??? on ???





OrionTM320x240.jpg
TrashMan's GTD Orion


TrashMan's Version:

$POF File: Orion_FS1.pof
Textures: capital01-01(a/c), capital01-02a, capital01-03a, capital01-04a, capital01-05a, capital01-06a, capital01-07a, install01-01a, damage


History
First WIP Post: TrashMan on 09/13/2005
First In-Game Model: TrashMan on 09/14/2005
Completed In-Game Model:TrashMan on 07/21/2007
Final Corrections: ??? on ???


Gallery

Veteran Comments

Read the Veteran Comments policy before editing this section.


Despite the introduction of the new Hecate class of destroyers, the aging Orion still remains a vital part of the GTVA arsenal. With the Hecate designed with an emphasis on protection from fighter and bomber attacks, the Orion remains the king of capital ship combat - With heavy beam emplacements capable of laying down devastating fire in nearly all directions, it is a true terror to any capital ship that strays into its firing range.

However, its age does show in one area. Being designed in an era where fighter and bomber ordnance was far inferior to today's weaponry and where shields were nonexistent, it carries very few dedicated anti-fighter turrets, making it an easy target for bomber wings should it ever be left without fighter escort.


The Orion only carries eight squadrons of fighters to the Hecate's twelve, but has massively more firepower, arranged better on its hull. The GTD Bastion, however, canonically lists ten squadrons, it must be assumed that these are not full squadrons (twelve fighters per full squadron) or that the Bastion is not a typical Orion.


Great at eliminating capital ships. Those 6 anti-warship beams are nothing to laugh at. Rather vulnerable to enemy fighter craft but not as badly as people give it credit for. However, if you needed proof all warships over cruiser size need flak cannons, this would be it. The laser turrets cover long-range bomb destruction fairly well, but without flak, bombers could simply go closer and then let loose


It is worth noting that not all the canonical Orions in FreeSpace 2 mount standard weaponry, at least one (the NTD Uhuru) mounts Flak Guns on its upper turrets. This may have happened due to balancing issues, anyway.


If you're looking for a true descendant of HMS Dreadnaught in FS, put the Orion at the top of the list. Under ideal conditions it can bring two BGreens and two TerSlash to bear on a target; the heaviest broadside any GTVA destroyer can muster. Be aware that in practice presenting this broadside to another destroyer is quite dangerous; the side of the ship without a fighterbay has no non-heavy-beam turrets, and the other side has only a single blob. AAAf's and sufficent blobs to intercept multiple inbound bombs are mounted only on the upper and lower surfaces of the hull, so attack from or protect the sides of the ship.


One thing worth noting is that the tech description is a bald-faced lie: the Orion does not have "dozens" of turrets. The fact is that it has a dozen and one third turrets. While this lack of turrets does not compromise its ability against capital ships, the same cannot be said against a fighter assault.


In FreeSpace 2, the Orion is basically a capital ship killer. Its three heavy beam cannons (as well as several slasher beams for fire support) provide an excellent perimeter of defense for the ship. However, I believe it is still outmatched by the Hatshepsut in two ways; one, the Hatshepsut can focus more firepower, making it a worthy opponent even for the deadly SD Ravana; two, the Hatshepsut has 35% more hitpoints. Though the Orion outranks the Hecate in anti-capital firepower, it packs a tragically poor anti-bomber armament; a single dedicated heavy bomber pilot can take out the Orion. Though it has less anti-bomber firepower than the Hecate, it more than compensates for its lethargic heavy beam weaponry.